The meaning of life

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# smallBang - 2009-03-04 02:04
by: Pathfinder
I didn't say that the particles at 0°K are nothing, I said that NOTHING vs. SOMETHING is like ABSOLUTE ZERO vs. TEMPERATURE.

Sorry, you're right, my bad.

by: Pathfinder
But tell me, if you didn't say that nothing could exist, then why do you ask "why is there something rather than nothing?" Since the answer is: because "nothing" cannot exist.

The fact that "nothing" cannot exist doesn't explain how it's possible that something exist.

The ultimate question is not "Instead of an existing nothing, there is something: how is it possible?"

But: "Instead of the absence of anything, there is something: how is it possible?"

If there was nothing, that "nothing" wouldn't exist. "nothing" is only a word describing the "state" where there would be nothing at all. Of course it wouldn't even be a "state".

# Pathfinder - 2009-03-04 02:17
by: smallBang
If there was nothing, that "nothing" wouldn't exist. "nothing" is only a word describing the "state" where there would be nothing at all. Of course it wouldn't even be a "state".

Right. I missed it again.
I think the problem is arount movement. Where/when does it start? What was the first moving thing and why did it start to move?
Time is movement. The universe can only be defined starting with the first moving element. Since movement and time are not separated, time cannot exist before movement, so we can't even say "before movement". We can't ask "what was before movement", since time (and the meaning of before) was created at the time movement began.
I think the answer is lying somewhere beyond space-time.

I'm dumm for this...
# smallBang - 2009-03-04 02:26
by: Pathfinder
I think the problem is arount movement. Where/when does it start? What was the first moving thing and why did it start to move?

In my opinion, it's very clear that nothing can happen in "nothing", no movement, no time, no transformation. There is nothing, how could anything happen?

This is why I do believe in an eternal "something". A "something" that is beyond anything we can explain logically/scientifically: it's his own source of existence. I call this "god". Maybe I shouldn't, but it's the only word I know that is strong enough. It must be something way beyond anything I can even start to imagine. And of course we're all part of it, everything is.

# Anonpower - 2009-03-09 19:01
Nothing
No sound and no silence
No light or dark
Neither sleeping nor dreaming
Nor living nor dying
There and then are no worlds or realms
And there is neither nothing.
It is neither vast nor small,
Ancient or newwly born.

Nothing is a contradiction of itself, and that is why nonexistent is nonexistent.
# Anonpower - 2009-03-10 21:29
Uhh... sorry about that last post...

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