The meaning of life

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In praise of Onions.

crow - 2014-04-13 01:47
No man can know himself until he has succeeded in peeling away every layer of what he has piled - of has had piled - on top of his essential self.
I know more about a man from a single sentence from him, than he knows about himself.
How? Because I have taken the time, and done the work, to know myself.

A man is very much like an onion. He has many layers. All arranged around, and completely obscuring his core. His core is something neither he, nor anybody else, ever sees.
Nobody sees, because nobody looks.
Nobody looks, because it never occurred to them that they could.
Thus they never see, or know, the core, of themselves, or anybody else.
Every onion looks like an onion. Every man looks like a man.
But no two are the same.
Except at their core.
That tiniest, hidden, unsuspected part, is what makes men equal.

Nothing else does.


The answear

Draven - 2014-04-12 18:15
The meaning of life is death, is this not obvious

Knowing not-knowing.

crow - 2014-04-10 15:05
In the art of taoism, there is a great secret, often read of, but rarely understood.
In Chinese, it is wu-wei, literally doing not-doing.
It makes no sense, to a Westerner. How can you do anything by not doing it?
But are we looking for sense? Does everything have to 'make sense'?

The mind makes sense of things. It does a good job. But there are things that can not be made sense of. And so, the mind does not serve when applied to those things.

How does a man catch a fish with a fly? He casts, and lets the river draw the fly downstream. The man and the fly go with the river. The man does not catch the fish. The fly does not catch the fish. The river does not catch the fish. The fish catches itself.

The art of fly fishing lies in the exercise of patience. One prepares oneself, then does nothing. It is the fish that does something. The fisherman merely waits for the fish to do it.

There are things the mind is not equipped to know. The wise mind knows this.
It steps aside, when it knows it is the wrong tool for the job.
When your mind can do this, you will know.



Intellect.

crow - 2014-04-09 01:00
The trouble with intellect is one that is inherent to it. It can only go so far.
It runs out of context in realms where intellect does not exist.
It ceases to be relevant.

Intellect can intellectualize what happens right up to death. Then it dies.
It can theorize, beyond that, but it can not know.
It can cause rockets to blast into space, and can collect data relative to material things.
But it can not know the nature of the non-material.

It can grasp the nature of energy, in an abstract way, and the interiors of distant suns, but therein lies its limit: it grasps. Like a dream, clear as day, upon waking. If you reach for it, it recedes. Grasped at, it is gone.

Soul is not limited to life/death. It can exist anywhere, forever. It can know.
What are those little quanta that so intrigue science?
Why do scientists get so caught up in trying to apply their intellects to these quantum particles?
All they can do is theorize, and maybe destroy a few, experimenting with them.
Maybe.

Too small to be vulnerable. Too wise to receive harm. Too incomprehensible for the intellect to grasp.
Consider quanta, and you consider God.

On being human...

crow - 2014-04-08 18:41
I lay in the bathtub and drifted.
Happiness, for me, lies in pulling the plug on active thought. I eliminate all the straight lines and right-angles, and leave the diffuse, the luminous, the indistinct forms.

It is impossible to really define what a human is, because we are not actually human.
We do not, and can not, know this thing we inhabit.
We can, however, with great diligence, discover what we really are.
And if we succeed in that, we can know we are not human at all.

The potential for consciousness exists within each human.
It remains unconscious as long as it is ignorant of its existence.
If, and when, it becomes aware of itself, it becomes clear that it is not the form it inhabits.
That form is a vehicle for its physical manifestation.

It was a particularly pleasant bath. I felt calm again, could breathe again, and feel content again.
My wife visited, during the event, and asked if anything was wrong. She said I seemed 'different'.
I was, I said. Very. And no, nothing was wrong.

Swan Song?

Stuart - 2014-04-08 18:15
Hmm...How embarrassing...It was there all the time but I didn't see it.

"Firework"


Do you ever feel like a plastic bag
Drifting through the wind, wanting to start again?
Do you ever feel, feel so paper thin
Like a house of cards, one blow from caving in?

Do you ever feel already buried deep six feet under?
Screams but no one seems to hear a thing
Do you know that there's still a chance for you
'Cause there's a spark in you?

You just gotta ignite the light and let it shine
Just own the night like the 4th of July

'Cause, baby, you're a firework
Come on, show 'em what you're worth
Make 'em go, "Aah, aah, aah"
As you shoot across the sky-y-y

Baby, you're a firework
Come on, let your colours burst
Make 'em go, "Aah, aah, aah"
You're gonna leave 'em all in awe, awe, awe

You don't have to feel like a wasted space
You're original, cannot be replaced
If you only knew what the future holds
After a hurricane comes a rainbow

Maybe a reason why all the doors are closed
So you could open one that leads you to the perfect road
Like a lightning bolt, your heart will glow
And when it's time you'll know

You just gotta ignite the light and let it shine
Just own the night like the 4th of July

'Cause, baby, you're a firework
Come on, show 'em what you're worth
Make 'em go, "Aah, aah, aah"
As you shoot across the sky-y-y

Baby, you're a firework
Come on, let your colours burst
Make 'em go, "Aah, aah, aah"
You're gonna leave 'em all in awe, awe, awe

Boom, boom, boom
Even brighter than the moon, moon, moon
It's always been inside of you, you, you
And now it's time to let it through-ough-ough

'Cause, baby, you're a firework
Come on, show 'em what you're worth
Make 'em go, "Aah, aah, aah"
As you shoot across the sky-y-y

Baby, you're a firework
Come on, let your colours burst
Make 'em go, "Aah, aah, aah"
You're gonna leave 'em all in awe, awe, awe

Boom, boom, boom
Even brighter than the moon, moon, moon
Boom, boom, boom
Even brighter than the moon, moon, moon


Truly just.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX-xToQI34I
Take the time to watch it.

But a reminder...Truly Just.

Your life vs. time

smallBang - 2014-04-08 11:09
Note : I do know that time is a very special subject. Even scientifically speaking, time is a strange beast, particularly when you are close to events like the Big Bang!

But I still think that meditate about time is one of the best way to awake to some spiritual/religious questions.

Here are the possibilities, regarding Existence, when looking at it in relation to time :

1. Existence always has been and will be forever
∞...______<<past_______ [your life] _____futur>>_______...∞

2. Existence started at some point but will be forever
[______<<past_______ [your life] _____futur>>_______...∞

3. Existence always has been but will stop at some point
∞...______<<past_______ [your life] _____futur>>_______]

4. Existence started at some point and will stop at some point
[______<<past_______ [your life] _____futur>>_______]


Now think of the signifiance of your life, in regard to those 4 options.

If Existence always has been and will be forever, your current life can't be more trivial. Your life is a very, very small wave on an ocean that is so huge that imagination can't ever start to grasp it.

If Existence started at some point but will be forever, it is very similar : It is unbounded so anything is just a very little and insignificant event.

If Existence started at some point and will stop at some point, or if Existence always has been but will stop at some point, anything has no importance at all because everything will end. Why bother? Do what you want, everything will end anyway!

~~~

In my opinion, Existence always has been and will be forever. It may be hard to believe, but it still is the easiest option to believe when you think about it!

My life? This universe? Anything? Not important.
Insignifiant compared to the Eternal Existence!

Does this mean that I am suicidal? Not at all. It only means that I tend to live my life without trying to reach anything anymore. Enjoying life the more I can... Not that enjoying life is important either! But simply that I enjoy enjoying things! ;-)

For The Glory!

crow - 2014-04-07 19:44
For The Glory!
This is an expression I adopted during the two years I spent in Quebec City, whose citizens take much pride in refusing to speak a word of English, although most of them are fluent in the language. Consequently, I became surprisingly fluent in French. Through necessity.
They would say: "Pour la Gloire!"

But what does it mean? What do you think it means? Under what circumstances might it be said? What is this 'Glory'?

Critical Thinking.

crow - 2014-04-07 15:35
Here's something I read, today, by Soren Larsen. It showed me something I had never known.
There I was, my whole life, under the impression I had something in common with my fellow man, when all the time, I was - in fact - a crow...

"Throughout my school-years I've been taught, that it is important to think critically.

If you can think critically, then you can think for yourself, and then you won't be so easily fooled - so the reasoning went.

As I got older I gradually realized how insane this idea really is: No matter what, you must always remember to criticize.

What I found out - especially at university - was, that everybody felt that thinking critically was so important, that it really didn't matter if you understood what you were criticizing or not. It was all about thinking independently - and everybody assumed that being critical of everything was the only way to 'not letting yourself be fooled'.

The foolishness was, that nobody even thought of criticizing the whole idea of criticism as independent thinking in itself. Everybody just went along with it. Why? Well - that's what we were taught, wasn't it?

So much for thinking for yourself.

What it really leads to is no one being able to think at all. Everybody is so afraid of being fooled by 'dangerous ideas', that they don't even dare to understand the things they fear being fooled by.

'Cause that could lead to, like, oppression man.' Oppression of every man's right to 'think for himself', ie. to be freely able to dismiss anything, without understanding anything about it, that is.

- 'Equality' follows naturally: Nobody should be fooled by anything = Every individual has an absolute right to fool himself."

Reality.

crow - 2014-04-06 22:22
Reality is the last frontier, but one that, by its nature, will never become overpopulated.
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