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Eternal_brakedown@myspace.com We have all given thought to such questions like these as to how we came to be alive or how we all came from one single organism the mind is something that will always question everything it is our nature to question thing everyone and even ourselves perhaps if we let things be the answer will fall into place but of course we won’t ever stop searching for such answers i believe that if you live in search for this you will not bare life and if you were able to accomplish the findings of theses questions you would be devastated with what you come across I mean think about it if we were to know the answers to all the great questions in the world what would be the point perhaps what im trying to say is rather difficult to comprehend or maybe im just speaking randomness but one thing I know for sure I believe that life should just be lived with believing in nothing but yourself and questioning nothing but what you do and why you do it …I live for one thing ever since I was little I lived to be loved and love that is my one and only value "for to live life without love is to not live at all" … that’s the answer to all my questions ….but hey im still young ill figure out what I want to figure out …im 17 years young :D “AJG”
How comes the many from the one?
I figured out that most of the questions what we can't answer have a common problem. It is: these questions deal with multiple things which are originated from a single source. But we have no idea how comes the many from the one.
How came many particles from the one particle at the beginning?
How did multiple-cell organisms appear among single-cell organisms?
How can multiple consciousness exist beside the "divine consciousness"?
How can many things exist if all is from one?
I'd really like to read any opinions, no matter how silly it seems, because I have no idea :)
How came many particles from the one particle at the beginning?
How did multiple-cell organisms appear among single-cell organisms?
How can multiple consciousness exist beside the "divine consciousness"?
How can many things exist if all is from one?
I'd really like to read any opinions, no matter how silly it seems, because I have no idea :)
The World
Outside is pure energy and colorless substance, all of the rest happens through the mechanism of our senses.
What if?
What if . . .
The answer is right infront of us, and we cannot see it.
What if . . .
We are so coiled up in life's daily survival of the fittest business, that we cannot see it.
What if . . .
What we think is general knowledge, is the key to all our questions.
What if . . .
OUr answers are all right
What if . . .
Our answers is all wrong!
What if . . .
We think we exist, but we do not, we are just the imagine nation of some one/ something bigger?
What if . . .
The Bible is actually the truth? What then?
What if . . .
Our very existence are determined by our deeds, our love for people and the services we provide for the people around us? What then?
What is your answer to this?!!
The answer is right infront of us, and we cannot see it.
What if . . .
We are so coiled up in life's daily survival of the fittest business, that we cannot see it.
What if . . .
What we think is general knowledge, is the key to all our questions.
What if . . .
OUr answers are all right
What if . . .
Our answers is all wrong!
What if . . .
We think we exist, but we do not, we are just the imagine nation of some one/ something bigger?
What if . . .
The Bible is actually the truth? What then?
What if . . .
Our very existence are determined by our deeds, our love for people and the services we provide for the people around us? What then?
What is your answer to this?!!
Different beliefs, different ways IV. – Vedanta
This is the fourth of a series of answers what I am planning to write, presenting different belief systems and what they called the ultimate goal, and ways how they tried to reach them. I don't say that any of them is correct or on the right track, but I think these informations may be inspirational to people who truly think about the ultimate questions.
Hindu philosophy is one of the most complex around the world, it consists of nine different main schools, of which six is based on the Vedas as the ultimate basis of knowledge, while the other three do not. The nine schools are:
1. Sankhya
2. Yoga
3. Nyaya
4. Vaisheshika
5. Mimamsa
6. Vedanta
7. Buddhism
8. Jainism
9. Carvaka (died out in the 15th century).
The Vedas, the main scripts of knowledge in the Indian region, consists of four books: The Rgveda hymns, the Yajurveda formulas, the Samaveda formulas, and the Atharvaveda collection of spells, incarnations, stories, etc.
Vedanta’s focus is on the spiritual tradition of the Upanisads, which contain the core teachings of the Vedas in a philosophical way. The Upanisads are hence very important scriptures of the Hindu tradition, which offer the essence of the knowledge of the Vedas, embraced by different stories through the different Upanisad books. Vedanta, by focusing on this essential knowledge, deals with self-realization and the ultimate nature of reality (reality named Brahman, and it is far from the reality as we usually think of it). Actually, most of the Hindu scriptures deal with this issue, except maybe the ones which deal with rituals.
The Vedic scripts are based on two main statements:
1. Human nature is divine.
2. The aim of human life is to realize this divineness.
The goal of Vedanta is the state of self-realization through the realization of the self-divineness, or cosmic consciousness. However, the Hindu tradition does not believe that human is the body, it believes that human is the soul, thus it has a different way from the western alchemy, which tries to refine the body to make it immutable.
As one of the greatest writers of the Vedic history, Adi Sankaracarya (or Adi Shankara) wrote several scripts on the issue of self-realization, the realization of the unity with Brahman, or in other words, to realize that the soul (Atman) is equal to the Brahman (this is similar to the Christian theory of the Holly Spirit being equal to both God and the human soul).
It is usual in the Indian region by most philosophies that they try to reach the ultimate perfection through the mental unification of the individual human and the ‘cosmic one and only’. By this unification they believe to attain a state in which no disease can take place, no early death can occur, no struggling may be part of life, because the life of the self-realized is a divine life.
The one and only existence which the Vedanta and other Hindu schools refer to, called Brahman, is one without attributes. It cannot be defined, neither observed, nor known directl...
Hindu philosophy is one of the most complex around the world, it consists of nine different main schools, of which six is based on the Vedas as the ultimate basis of knowledge, while the other three do not. The nine schools are:
1. Sankhya
2. Yoga
3. Nyaya
4. Vaisheshika
5. Mimamsa
6. Vedanta
7. Buddhism
8. Jainism
9. Carvaka (died out in the 15th century).
The Vedas, the main scripts of knowledge in the Indian region, consists of four books: The Rgveda hymns, the Yajurveda formulas, the Samaveda formulas, and the Atharvaveda collection of spells, incarnations, stories, etc.
Vedanta’s focus is on the spiritual tradition of the Upanisads, which contain the core teachings of the Vedas in a philosophical way. The Upanisads are hence very important scriptures of the Hindu tradition, which offer the essence of the knowledge of the Vedas, embraced by different stories through the different Upanisad books. Vedanta, by focusing on this essential knowledge, deals with self-realization and the ultimate nature of reality (reality named Brahman, and it is far from the reality as we usually think of it). Actually, most of the Hindu scriptures deal with this issue, except maybe the ones which deal with rituals.
The Vedic scripts are based on two main statements:
1. Human nature is divine.
2. The aim of human life is to realize this divineness.
The goal of Vedanta is the state of self-realization through the realization of the self-divineness, or cosmic consciousness. However, the Hindu tradition does not believe that human is the body, it believes that human is the soul, thus it has a different way from the western alchemy, which tries to refine the body to make it immutable.
As one of the greatest writers of the Vedic history, Adi Sankaracarya (or Adi Shankara) wrote several scripts on the issue of self-realization, the realization of the unity with Brahman, or in other words, to realize that the soul (Atman) is equal to the Brahman (this is similar to the Christian theory of the Holly Spirit being equal to both God and the human soul).
It is usual in the Indian region by most philosophies that they try to reach the ultimate perfection through the mental unification of the individual human and the ‘cosmic one and only’. By this unification they believe to attain a state in which no disease can take place, no early death can occur, no struggling may be part of life, because the life of the self-realized is a divine life.
The one and only existence which the Vedanta and other Hindu schools refer to, called Brahman, is one without attributes. It cannot be defined, neither observed, nor known directl...
The Meaning of Life - Living in the Moment with Love, Loss, and Others
Someone suggested that I share this here, so I am obliging. I wrote the original for my blog earlier this week. I hope you find something meaningful in my ruminations.
Last night I somehow found myself talking to Connor, my ‘Mr. Almost 8′, about the Meaning of Life as we drove home from Tae Kwon Do class. We were talking about space, the Moon, and the future - what he will get to see in his lifetime. I was making predictions for him about the exciting technological and cultural advancements he would get to experience during the course of his life. I spend a great deal of time thinking about the rest of my time in this life with my family, and how their lives will progress as they age.
I kept avoiding saying - “Before you die, you’ll likely see…” and said “Before you get really old…”. While he and I have conversations about death sometimes, he is a very sensitive boy and I don’t want him to think about such heavy topics often. He’s too serious for his age.
We started talking about what a great summer we are going to have - all the things we are going to do as a family - trips to the zoo, Indianapolis Children’s Museum, Kings Island, camping out at Gran & Grandad’s farm, taking an afternoon canoe trip, and a week on a beach in the Carolinas (Yes, I realize that I am blessed/lucky).
I found myself saying, “Connor, that’s what Life is all about. Getting out and having Experiences, Enjoying Life in the Here and Now with People you Love. Living. Being.” As I told him this, it struck me that I had hit upon the Great Secret - the Meaning of Life. It seems so simple, so apparent.
There is very little that is certain for any of us. I know from experience that my life can change in an instant - that everything can be wonderful and five minutes later you can be saddled with a loss and grief that will change the rest of your life. In spite of this, we cannot live every day waiting for the worst to happen. It can, and It may, but until it does, life goes on and there is much good in the world.
Immediately after saying this to my son I was sad for the folks who cannot see that we create the meaning in our lives on a daily basis - the ones who spend their lives as recluses, hating the world, or bitter and lonely, stuck in time - blaming everything on everyone else and taking no responsibility. Or, those who live life as if it were a curse, viewing everything as being filled with sin, and loathing everything ‘of the world’ while pining away for the afterlife.
Believe me, I KNOW what it’s like to have things that break your soul and spirit until you wonder if not existing would be better than living at the bottom of the pit you somehow find yourself in. In the midst of those excruciating moments, if someone had told me what I am saying now, it would have been useless to me. In those moments we are weak, wounded, hurting, and often hopeless. Remembering that there is more to life than what is confronting us at this exact moment is difficult.
It...
Last night I somehow found myself talking to Connor, my ‘Mr. Almost 8′, about the Meaning of Life as we drove home from Tae Kwon Do class. We were talking about space, the Moon, and the future - what he will get to see in his lifetime. I was making predictions for him about the exciting technological and cultural advancements he would get to experience during the course of his life. I spend a great deal of time thinking about the rest of my time in this life with my family, and how their lives will progress as they age.
I kept avoiding saying - “Before you die, you’ll likely see…” and said “Before you get really old…”. While he and I have conversations about death sometimes, he is a very sensitive boy and I don’t want him to think about such heavy topics often. He’s too serious for his age.
We started talking about what a great summer we are going to have - all the things we are going to do as a family - trips to the zoo, Indianapolis Children’s Museum, Kings Island, camping out at Gran & Grandad’s farm, taking an afternoon canoe trip, and a week on a beach in the Carolinas (Yes, I realize that I am blessed/lucky).
I found myself saying, “Connor, that’s what Life is all about. Getting out and having Experiences, Enjoying Life in the Here and Now with People you Love. Living. Being.” As I told him this, it struck me that I had hit upon the Great Secret - the Meaning of Life. It seems so simple, so apparent.
There is very little that is certain for any of us. I know from experience that my life can change in an instant - that everything can be wonderful and five minutes later you can be saddled with a loss and grief that will change the rest of your life. In spite of this, we cannot live every day waiting for the worst to happen. It can, and It may, but until it does, life goes on and there is much good in the world.
Immediately after saying this to my son I was sad for the folks who cannot see that we create the meaning in our lives on a daily basis - the ones who spend their lives as recluses, hating the world, or bitter and lonely, stuck in time - blaming everything on everyone else and taking no responsibility. Or, those who live life as if it were a curse, viewing everything as being filled with sin, and loathing everything ‘of the world’ while pining away for the afterlife.
Believe me, I KNOW what it’s like to have things that break your soul and spirit until you wonder if not existing would be better than living at the bottom of the pit you somehow find yourself in. In the midst of those excruciating moments, if someone had told me what I am saying now, it would have been useless to me. In those moments we are weak, wounded, hurting, and often hopeless. Remembering that there is more to life than what is confronting us at this exact moment is difficult.
It...
Different beliefs, different ways III. – Buddhism
This is the third of a series of answers what I am planning to write, presenting different belief systems and what they called the ultimate goal, and ways how they tried to reach them. I don't say that any of them is correct or on the right track, but I think these informations may be inspirational to people who truly think about the ultimate questions.
Buddhism was founded as a path to overcome the lifelong suffering and pain. It wasn’t meant to be a religion; hence it doesn’t deal with an ultimate entity what we may identify as a god.
The Buddhist way was established by an Indian prince called Gautama Siddhartha about 2500 years ago. He found that even if his life is full of richness, fun and joy, even he cannot avoid old age and diseases; that all the living beings will eventually face death and expiration.
Gautama left his life of richness and became a wandering monk. Years later he found that not only the everyday joy, but even asceticism is a wrong way, which cannot lead to enlightenment. The way Gautama defined enlightenment is equal to the Hindu definition, since the most popular religion in India was Hindu that time, this is: life is a dream and when you awake to your own reality then you become enlightened; all of the dark veils which cover reality will be removed, and the world itself, as it really is, will be enlightened in you, you will be aware of it.
After his enlightenment, Gautama used the name Buddha, which means the awaken one. During his way to this event, he realized that there is one basic principle which is the root of all the pain and suffering in the world (attachment), and once this is avoided, man is set free from his bondages. He wrote down the so-called middle path, which consists of the Four Noble Truths:
1. Life means suffering.
2. The origin of suffering is attachment.
3. The cessation of suffering is attainable.
4. The path to the cessation of suffering.
The fourth truth is the Noble Eightfold Path, which is essentially the way which, if properly followed, eventually leads to enlightenment. These are:
1. Right View
2. Right Intention
3. Right Speech
4. Right Action
5. Right Livelihood
6. Right Effort
7. Right Mindfulness
8. Right Concentration
Whether something is right or wrong is based on the conception of the Karma, which basically means that if you do good then you receive good, if you do bad then you receive bad. However, the way of enlightenment has a goal in the riddance of Karma, and not in creating good Karma.
Karma is based on the belief of reincarnation, meaning that even if you do bad things and you receive good things in this life, eventually you will receive the bad things for your bad deeds, if not in this life, then in a forthcoming one. According to Karma, everyone who has a karmic attachment to anything will reborn and get his/her reward for his deeds, speeches and thoughts. So the only way of riddance and enlightenment is to avoid creating more karmic attachmen...
Buddhism was founded as a path to overcome the lifelong suffering and pain. It wasn’t meant to be a religion; hence it doesn’t deal with an ultimate entity what we may identify as a god.
The Buddhist way was established by an Indian prince called Gautama Siddhartha about 2500 years ago. He found that even if his life is full of richness, fun and joy, even he cannot avoid old age and diseases; that all the living beings will eventually face death and expiration.
Gautama left his life of richness and became a wandering monk. Years later he found that not only the everyday joy, but even asceticism is a wrong way, which cannot lead to enlightenment. The way Gautama defined enlightenment is equal to the Hindu definition, since the most popular religion in India was Hindu that time, this is: life is a dream and when you awake to your own reality then you become enlightened; all of the dark veils which cover reality will be removed, and the world itself, as it really is, will be enlightened in you, you will be aware of it.
After his enlightenment, Gautama used the name Buddha, which means the awaken one. During his way to this event, he realized that there is one basic principle which is the root of all the pain and suffering in the world (attachment), and once this is avoided, man is set free from his bondages. He wrote down the so-called middle path, which consists of the Four Noble Truths:
1. Life means suffering.
2. The origin of suffering is attachment.
3. The cessation of suffering is attainable.
4. The path to the cessation of suffering.
The fourth truth is the Noble Eightfold Path, which is essentially the way which, if properly followed, eventually leads to enlightenment. These are:
1. Right View
2. Right Intention
3. Right Speech
4. Right Action
5. Right Livelihood
6. Right Effort
7. Right Mindfulness
8. Right Concentration
Whether something is right or wrong is based on the conception of the Karma, which basically means that if you do good then you receive good, if you do bad then you receive bad. However, the way of enlightenment has a goal in the riddance of Karma, and not in creating good Karma.
Karma is based on the belief of reincarnation, meaning that even if you do bad things and you receive good things in this life, eventually you will receive the bad things for your bad deeds, if not in this life, then in a forthcoming one. According to Karma, everyone who has a karmic attachment to anything will reborn and get his/her reward for his deeds, speeches and thoughts. So the only way of riddance and enlightenment is to avoid creating more karmic attachmen...
dream
In a dream someone asks "what is the meaning of my life?"
What can be the answer?
What can be the answer?
Different beliefs, different ways II. – Hermeticism
This is the second of a series of answers what I am planning to write, presenting different belief systems and what they called the ultimate goal, and ways how they tried to reach them. I don't say that any of them is correct or on the right track, but I think these informations may be inspirational to people who truly think about the ultimate questions.
Hermeticism is related to Hermes Trismegistos, who was known in the ancient Egypt as Thoth, the god of wisdom and knowledge. Mythology assumes that the Egyptian god Thoth, the greek Hermes, and the roman Mercury are the different reincarnations of the same person. We aren’t entirely sure about this.
Hermes is well known mostly because of his Emerald Tablet or Tabula Smaragdina. It is a table which contains some statements from the highest levels of knowledge possible for mankind – at least we like to believe so. It turns out to point to mystical connections, possibilities, repetitions in nature’s sequences on different levels, etc., which are basically the same things what science is about to discover these days. So, since I find this very interesting, I give you a copy of it (note that there are many different translations of the tablet).
Although the emerald tablet is what Hermes is mostly known for, hermeticism has another scripture which makes its basic knowledge, this is the Corpus Hermeticum. This book contains all the basic, or fundamental knowledge what a follower should be familiar with in purpose of serving the hermetic tradition’s god. The scripts in the book were collected by Italians in the renaissance, but...
Hermeticism is related to Hermes Trismegistos, who was known in the ancient Egypt as Thoth, the god of wisdom and knowledge. Mythology assumes that the Egyptian god Thoth, the greek Hermes, and the roman Mercury are the different reincarnations of the same person. We aren’t entirely sure about this.
Hermes is well known mostly because of his Emerald Tablet or Tabula Smaragdina. It is a table which contains some statements from the highest levels of knowledge possible for mankind – at least we like to believe so. It turns out to point to mystical connections, possibilities, repetitions in nature’s sequences on different levels, etc., which are basically the same things what science is about to discover these days. So, since I find this very interesting, I give you a copy of it (note that there are many different translations of the tablet).
True, without error, certain and most true
That which is below is as that which is above, and that which is above is as that which is below, to perform the miracles of the one thing.
And as all things were from the one, by means of the meditation of the one, thus all things of the daughter from the one, by means of adaptation.
Its father is the sun, its mother, the moon, the wind carried it in its belly, its nurse is the earth.
The father of all the initiates of the whole world is here.
Its power is integrating if it be turned into earth.
Separate the earth from the fire, the fine from the dense, delicately, by means to the great together with capacity.
It ascends by means of earth into heaven and again it descends into the earth, and retakes the power of the superiors and of the inferiors.
Thus, you have the glory of the whole world.
Therefore, may it drive-out by means of you of all the obscurity.
This is the whole of the strength of the strong force, because it overcomes all fine things, and penetrates all the complete.
Thus, the world has been created.
Hence they were wonderful adaptations, of which this is the manner.
Therefore I am Hermes the Thrice Great, having the three parts of the philosophy of the whole world.
What I have said concerning the operation of the Sun has been completed.
That which is below is as that which is above, and that which is above is as that which is below, to perform the miracles of the one thing.
And as all things were from the one, by means of the meditation of the one, thus all things of the daughter from the one, by means of adaptation.
Its father is the sun, its mother, the moon, the wind carried it in its belly, its nurse is the earth.
The father of all the initiates of the whole world is here.
Its power is integrating if it be turned into earth.
Separate the earth from the fire, the fine from the dense, delicately, by means to the great together with capacity.
It ascends by means of earth into heaven and again it descends into the earth, and retakes the power of the superiors and of the inferiors.
Thus, you have the glory of the whole world.
Therefore, may it drive-out by means of you of all the obscurity.
This is the whole of the strength of the strong force, because it overcomes all fine things, and penetrates all the complete.
Thus, the world has been created.
Hence they were wonderful adaptations, of which this is the manner.
Therefore I am Hermes the Thrice Great, having the three parts of the philosophy of the whole world.
What I have said concerning the operation of the Sun has been completed.
Although the emerald tablet is what Hermes is mostly known for, hermeticism has another scripture which makes its basic knowledge, this is the Corpus Hermeticum. This book contains all the basic, or fundamental knowledge what a follower should be familiar with in purpose of serving the hermetic tradition’s god. The scripts in the book were collected by Italians in the renaissance, but...
What is it really?
I think that the meaning of life can very person to person based on experiences, depression, and or from a "normal" persons point of view. For a long time I have been asking myself why things don't just get better? Why are people crooked? Why do we need all these unnecessary material items to make us happy? Why do people of high authority tell us they want to make our world a better place, and the next day they are in the paper for being arrested for stealing or assault or something that seems very hypocritical to what they want us to believe. Why are people drug addicts or alcoholics? PEOPLE synthesized drugs and fermented veggies and fruits for alcohol. Not to offend anyone, this is strictly my opinion, but why are there so many different religions telling us what to do out of a book that people made thousands of years ago, BEFORE people were all literate? Personally, I think it is about control. Someone has to lead the way. But what way are we led too? No matter what, no human is perfect. It just a shame that with they way our ancestors led us to today. Violence is still out there, but what will it take for us to all just relax and live off of what the earth gives us, and not factory made products. Life is not hard for animals, since they do the basic things, and don't have to worry if they will have their rent money. They don't have to make computers to make their lives easier, or print money so they can go and buy the latest clothes. But they are just animals, and not "evolved" enough, although we are. We got here they same way they did, but we just happened to open the door to our other 90% of our brains, and look where we are today.
Point is, many people think that we are doing well for the human race, and other people got the Sh*t end of the stick, and know that there is a lot of wrong for a life were supposed to live happily. What is the meaning of life? I don't know, but I want to stop living by other people, since no other species has leaders.
We have come too far now as humans to make life as simple as it once was long ago, but will we ever get back to that state again. God forbid anymore wrong.
I'm sorry if this may have offended anyone, but there are different opinions, and thanks to the leaders of our societies, we have the right to express them.
Point is, many people think that we are doing well for the human race, and other people got the Sh*t end of the stick, and know that there is a lot of wrong for a life were supposed to live happily. What is the meaning of life? I don't know, but I want to stop living by other people, since no other species has leaders.
We have come too far now as humans to make life as simple as it once was long ago, but will we ever get back to that state again. God forbid anymore wrong.
I'm sorry if this may have offended anyone, but there are different opinions, and thanks to the leaders of our societies, we have the right to express them.
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